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WITHDRAWN £5500: Raptor 1000's. 2005 showroom condition, 2000 miles; 2000, 19,000 miles; loads of extras

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:57 am
by Bear of Little Brain
Time to get real! I'm coming up to 68 this month and although the spirit is willing, the flesh is weakening (hips and back, actually). I'm just not going to be using the bike(s) much so either I put both into cocoon storage come July when my insurance becomes due or sell up. Before going to all that hassle I'll just offer everything as job-lot bundle here and see what all you Raptor fans think (politely, if possible :( )

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I've been a member here for what must be coming up to eight years and I'll regret leaving. I love my Rappies but I'm kidding myself to think that I can continue to ride in the manner that these wonderful bikes need to be ridden. No young person in the family is interested in bikes: otherwise I'd just pass them on. So here goes:

The 2000 Raptor 1000 has nearly 19,000 miles on the clock. New MoT as of April 20 (advisory on both tyres: near limits). Tax until August. I've always changed the oil and coolants at least every two years and well in advance of the scheduled distances. The original rear shock failed in 2010 and has been replaced with a Hagon unit with a remote preload adjuster (you can just about see it mounted on its alloy plate just above the final drive engine sprocket cover. The radiator was replaced with a new one in 2011. (I still have the original but it has a failed repair.) She's beginning to look a little worn on the lower frame but everything else looks pretty good, I'd say. You can see that I have changed the mirrors and fitted a passenger grab rail. The previous owner had fitted straight bars but had not kept the originals, so I fitted Renthals, plus the cross brace to minimise vibration. The registration is W###RPR (RaPtoR). (Ooh… :? )

The 2005 Raptor 1000 has either slightly less or slightly more than 2000 (TWO thousand) miles on her and is currently SORN'd. If you look at the second photo, you'll see why I cannot be precise about that – she's still in her winter wrapping! However, that's coming off for an MoT soon. When I bought her in 2012 she had 1500 miles on the clock. I bought her because I was convinced that I would come to some kind of grief on the first one or even if it just broke down I wanted a spare to just be able to keep riding. Yes, madness, I know, but the temptation of such a low mileage bike was too much at the time. Since then this bike has rarely been on the road. Most of the time it has been in dry storage. I think it's accurate to say that this bike is in showroom condition, virtually as-new. The photo was taken a couple of years ago but would look pretty much the same today.

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Incidentally, all my riding has been summers-only and most of that on dry days (with a few exceptions for the 2000 model). When stored, each bike is stood on two large sheets of clear builders plastic, the batteries are removed, the bike covers slipped over, and a very large tray of silica gel placed underneath each motor (to absorb any residual moisture once sealed). The plastic sheet is then pulled up and around and the bikes are cocooned by wrapping and taping up the plastic. All this happens inside dry lock-up garages. The 2005 bike gets the Abba stand.

Along with the bikes I'm including all other Raptor sundries:
Baglux tank cover and tank bag in good condition
Oxford panniers, in good condition
One of those "cruise control" thingies on the throttle twistgrip (you can just make it out in the photo)
Two bike covers (not shown)
A never-fitted, "new" front mudguard
An Abba stand
A hugger I bought off someone but never got around to fitting. They said it came off a Raptor.
A tatty tail-tidy that should fit but, again, I never tried fitting that either
A second pair of side tubes for the grab rail on the 2000 bike. The idea was to come up with guards welded so that the weight of loaded panniers would not bear on the plastic valances. Well, that didn't happen but it's still a good idea if you're anally retentive, like me.
Spare clutch cable
Spare faulty radiator. (It sprung a leak in the top left front. I had it repaired but that failed almost immediately, so I bought a new one. Other than that leak it is not damaged.)
A number of odds and ends which I took off of someone who was dismantling a bike. He marked it all up as V1000 and told me it was all from a Cagiva. Maybe. Anyway, there was an engine management box included and that does work. (Tried to upload image for this stuff but it wouldn't take. Maybe I've used up my allowance.)
Pair of 17T final drive engine sprockets (I was thinking of raising the gearing at one time).

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I think that's all the necessary info, but I've probably missed something.

Well, I'm looking for £5500 for the lot based on £3500 for the collectors item 2005 model and £2000 for the rest. Or £3700 for the 2005 and £1800 for the rest. Or… Well, you get the idea. :happyhappy:

As I almost said, I'm flying this idea, so I'll be interested in what the forum thinks. I'm in Worthing, West Sussex and, being retired, available for viewings or a chat pretty much anytime. I'm in no hurry to sell but this "package deal" cannot stand forever. Call 0780 556 3870 to chat, or PM me.

Personally, I still haven't seen any modern bike that I would rather own (where "modern" means "microprocessor controlled"). It is just a grin-machine.

PS: I had originally thought about offering this lot for £6000, so haggling is already built in!!!

Re: £5500: Raptor 1000's. 2005 showroom condition, 2000 miles; 2000, 19,000 miles; loads of extras

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:38 am
by shebee
Sorry to hear you are selling... thats a nice package for anyone, are you stopping riding completely? Or getting something more back/hips friendly?

Hang around here anyway you are part of the family!

Re: £5500: Raptor 1000's. 2005 showroom condition, 2000 miles; 2000, 19,000 miles; loads of extras

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:57 pm
by Bear of Little Brain
Thanks for the sympathy, Shebee!

You know how it is in life – every now and then big reassessments come up. A time to cast away stones…
To every season, etc.…

https://youtu.be/nA2IYnGRYac

At present I've a couple of old Triumphs as well as the Rappies. One Triumph is on eBay. It's a 1971 TR6C that I eBayed back from the USA a few years ago and put into usable condition. I still think that bike is really Steve-McQueen-cool but there is no way that I'll ever use it the way it should be used, blasting across open land and along dirt tracks (if you can even find them in West Sussex!). I feel much the same way about the Triumph as I do about the Rappies; my head says they should go but my heart says they should stay. Maybe that's why we (men) caIl our bikes, "she". :mrgreen: If I can get what I think are fair prices, so be it. If not, the gods are deciding and I may be around here a little longer!

Even if all these go I'll still have a '65 Triumph TR6SR road-style bike, which I also eBayed back from the States quite few years ago. That one looked fine in the YouTube videos at the time but, once I'd had it MoT'd and registered here, it turned out that it leaked oil around the push-rod tubes, which became needing the cylinder head surfaces lapping flat, which became worn cam followers and exhaust camshaft… Somehow the 15,000 miles on the clock started to look a little suspect. :( Anyway, there's a little work to be done there and that could end up being the bike that I keep, if only by default.

There is a moral here: don't lie in bed on Sunday mornings checking out the US eBay listings and thinking how much fun it will be to put in laughably-low bid just for the hell of it. That's how I ended up with the TR6C. :?

Actually, riding the Triumphs is really weird after the Raptors. Apart from the gear change and rear brake being the other way around, the footrests are so much further forward. Once underway, it's more like sitting on a comfy chair than being embedded on a bike. OTOH, I don't get spasms hauling my feet onto the footrests or the twinges from having my legs so folded up for an hour. Another ten years and I suppose I'll be saying how much more comfortable my mobility scooter is. I just hope I'm not saying it every ten minutes! :lol:

Sorry, rambling again

https://youtu.be/sYsw0KVRjCM

The Dude abides.

Hugz,

David

Re: £5500: Raptor 1000's. 2005 showroom condition, 2000 miles; 2000, 19,000 miles; loads of extras

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:22 am
by nickst4
Hi David,

Sorry to hear of your decision. A man who buys a spare of something he loves is right up my street: just ask The Missus! :nod:

I'm a little ahead of you on age but have maybe been luckier with health issues. Yes, the back aches all too frequently but having realised that my various bikes do need to have the same sort of bar-to-seat relationship that the Raptor has, I'm still very comfortable riding any of them. If the Raptor was my only steed, I'd probably (!) get over the awesome power availability and would ride it in a more relaxed manner. IMO, it's only the sports-type bikes with high-revving engines that really demand a certain style of riding for them to be enjoyable: a style that is not really appropriate for road use anyway.

Hopefully, someone here will be tempted by your Raptors and you can continue riding your other bikes. Why, 70 is the new 40, I reckon! :happyhappy:

Nick

Re: £5500: Raptor 1000's. 2005 showroom condition, 2000 miles; 2000, 19,000 miles; loads of extras

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:36 am
by snapdragon
These pics have the same effect on me as those photos on Facebook used to do on my workmates
"Oooh look! puppies/kittens I want it..." I know I already have an old bitch but lOOk Puppies........😳

And the spouse reminds me I have no kennel/garage to keep them in 😢
But I still want to hug them

Re: £5500: Raptor 1000's. 2005 showroom condition, 2000 miles; 2000, 19,000 miles; loads of extras

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:08 pm
by shebee
I know what you mean about the gear change variants. At one point in my stable i had a 500 Ariel , one up the rest down , a harley Panhead one down rest up on the other side other side, a cafe racer t140 with reverse gear rearsets and a 900 sportster one down rest up ...chopping between them meant i did spend the odd confused moment coasting into a corner dropping the revs until i could change gear or brake depending on whatever the fkin pedal was and not lock the wheel up! ... add to that the jeep.. LHD 3 speed box with reverse where everything else has first... that was more of a worry for the car behind me at the lights when the reversing lights cam on :evil:

Oh and if you have a twist and go scooter " that" lever is not the clutch... keep repeating until you stop locking the wheel coming up to junctions!
:ride:

All in all its amazing i spent so many miles upright!

Re: £5500: Raptor 1000's. 2005 showroom condition, 2000 miles; 2000, 19,000 miles; loads of extras

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:02 pm
by shedmonkey
Be a shame to see you go bear but good luck with the sale

Re: £5500: Raptor 1000's. 2005 showroom condition, 2000 miles; 2000, 19,000 miles; loads of extras

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:42 pm
by norrie
I would list them separately for the figures suggested and sell the spares separately as well. That way you will achieve the best price IMHO.
As the others have said sorry it has come to this but you have to listen to your body.

Re: WITHDRAWN £5500: Raptor 1000's. 2005 showroom condition, 2000 miles; 2000, 19,000 miles; loads of extras

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:38 pm
by Bear of Little Brain
I've taken your advice, norrie. I'm eBaying the 2005 model at £3600 initially, so we'll see how that goes. Since the other Raptor is worth far less and has been my main bike anyway, maybe I'll give her another year… or more? Ho, hum.
Just for completeness, I'll post a Classified here just to give the forum notification of my eBay listing.

Re: WITHDRAWN £5500: Raptor 1000's. 2005 showroom condition, 2000 miles; 2000, 19,000 miles; loads of extras

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:25 pm
by nickst4
Good news, Microcephallic Bear! You just need to think positive and not give in to anno domini, :thumbsup:

Nick