Project Polar-Raptor

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Re: Project Polar-Raptor

Post by El Vikingo Tropical » Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:49 pm

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El Vikingo Tropical wrote:Is the rear shocker location more or less in the same position on the mv swingarm as on the raptor oem?
I don't know yet, they both look to be pretty much in center.
I've to get swingarm in frame before I can tell for sure. I run out of time last time when I started to mount MV A swingarm, it didn't drop in place as I quickly tried it.
I had a look on a friends a brutale 1090 to day and it looks like it's more or less in the center
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Re: Project Polar-Raptor

Post by V4mp » Sun Oct 11, 2015 3:29 pm

El Vikingo Tropical wrote:
V4mp wrote:
El Vikingo Tropical wrote:Is the rear shocker location more or less in the same position on the mv swingarm as on the raptor oem?
I don't know yet, they both look to be pretty much in center.
I've to get swingarm in frame before I can tell for sure. I run out of time last time when I started to mount MV A swingarm, it didn't drop in place as I quickly tried it.
I had a look on a friends a brutale 1090 to day and it looks like it's more or less in the center
I got swingarm roughly mounted and looks like shock locations are pretty close. ;)
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Re: Project Polar-Raptor

Post by El Vikingo Tropical » Sun Oct 11, 2015 3:35 pm

That's look great you may just need a spacer
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Re: Project Polar-Raptor

Post by V4mp » Sun Oct 11, 2015 3:43 pm

Made some progress today and got swingarm mounted roughly into the frame. Looks pretty good to me. 8)
Mounting needed 10-15mm grinding on swingarm. Rough mount means swingarm is on axle, but chain- and tyreline need to be check. Rear shock needs also some planing how it will fit.

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Re: Project Polar-Raptor

Post by V4mp » Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:16 pm

Swingarm is now on the axle and chain line looks okey (tried to check it with laser, hopefully it went right :D).
I did quick wheel alignment too and looks like rear wheel needs to be moved ~10mm. Fortunately that 10mm can be correct with spacer and doesn't need machining. :thumbsup:
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Re: Project Polar-Raptor

Post by V4mp » Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:56 pm

Bike is rolling now, but needs proper spacers and triangle mount piece into swingarm and rear suspension (check last picture).
I also need to get new chain,
check if rear brake line goes with mv a rear caliper,
check if exhaust fits properly and
maybe order carbon fiber chain guards then swingarm project should be ready.

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Re: Project Polar-Raptor

Post by Crap Tartan » Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:44 pm

Thats looking really good!

So whats the bleed nipple looking thing sticking down through that alloy plate at the underside of the swingarm?

Is there plenty clearance for the shock hydraulic hose when arm is fully extended?

I remember from doing my swinger conversion the hard bit of wheel/chain alignment can be a pain as they fight against each other trying to keep the wheels perfectly in alignment.
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Re: Project Polar-Raptor

Post by V4mp » Sun Nov 29, 2015 5:48 pm

Crap Tartan wrote:Thats looking really good!
Thank you!
Crap Tartan wrote: So whats the bleed nipple looking thing sticking down through that alloy plate at the underside of the swingarm?
It might look like a bleed nipple, but it is just original shock mounting bracket bolt and a nut. Nut works as a spacer. I needed to replace original shock mounting bracket (check previous posts) with welded part which allows to use Cagiva linkage and triangles (MV Agusta has different kind of linkage system).
Problem was thread in swingarm, which is a metric fine thread and I have only standard threaded bolts so I needed to use original shock mounting bracket bolts. :oops: My welded part is thinner than original shock mounting bracket so I ran out of thread and needed spacer for rigid mount. Did this answer to the question?
Crap Tartan wrote: Is there plenty clearance for the shock hydraulic hose when arm is fully extended?


Yes, I think so.
Crap Tartan wrote: I remember from doing my swinger conversion the hard bit of wheel/chain alignment can be a pain as they fight against each other trying to keep the wheels perfectly in alignment.
Single sided swingarm makes things easier, because rear sprocket is not straightly bolted to the wheel.
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Re: Project Polar-Raptor

Post by Crap Tartan » Sun Nov 29, 2015 6:44 pm

"Single sided swingarm makes things easier, because rear sprocket is not straightly bolted to the wheel."

Of course, I didnt think of that!

I just made sure I had good front/rear wheel alignment first then made everything else work around that. It helped that i already had an R1 front end fitted which was already spaced to fit the raptor front wheel. It gave me that additional bit of adjustment to make everything work.
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Re: Project Polar-Raptor

Post by V4mp » Mon Nov 30, 2015 4:57 pm

Crap Tartan wrote:I just made sure I had good front/rear wheel alignment first then made everything else work around that. It helped that i already had an R1 front end fitted which was already spaced to fit the raptor front wheel. It gave me that additional bit of adjustment to make everything work.
I did it the other way. :D
I first aligned chain line and then started to think about wheels. Fortunately wheel alignment can be done with spacer between axle and wheel, so I don't need machinist to remove any material.
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Re: Project Polar-Raptor

Post by andybaggies » Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:11 pm

Whoa! it's sarting to look very nice... :nod:

How did you go about specing the ride height? Not sure if it's the photos but the saddle does seem to be raised quite a bit and would I be correct in saying you are using stock triangles?

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Re: Project Polar-Raptor

Post by V4mp » Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:40 pm

andybaggies wrote:Whoa! it's sarting to look very nice... :nod:

How did you go about specing the ride height? Not sure if it's the photos but the saddle does seem to be raised quite a bit and would I be correct in saying you are using stock triangles?

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You are correct, I'm using stock triangles. You aren't blind neither seat has raised, but I can't say exact number. If I remember next time I go to the garage I can measure that. ;) I'm 172cm tall and I can get my feet down to the ground so it isn't in adventure bike levels yet. :D

Because I'm using triangles, dog bone and shock made for Raptor only thing can change ride height is the swingarm mounting point.
I wanted to raise seat height a bit so I did some research, what is Raptors seat height and some other sport bikes seat heights. Basically then I just lifted bikes rear/seat height I wanted and made triangles swingarm mounting piece.
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Re: Project Polar-Raptor

Post by V4mp » Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:18 pm

Just a short update.
I'm waiting proper spacers and triangle mount piece from machinist. I should get them next week.:wink:
Looks like rear brake needs at least new brake hose, old chain will fit but needs to be shorten, exhausts is still mystery and I bought carbonfiber candy for swingarm.
I've also started to strip bike for painting. I'm painting frame, engine and bodywork. One picture from progress.

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Re: Project Polar-Raptor

Post by snapdragon » Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:25 pm

Awww poor little bird with no feathers :(
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Re: Project Polar-Raptor

Post by V4mp » Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:56 am

Strip done.
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