Starting problems

[Crap Tartan]

Reading that again, have you shorted the sidestand switch wiring so it is keeping a permanent earth on the coil irresspective of whether its up or not?

If its in neutral it should start and work fine no matter what you do with the sidestand.


it is only when you select a gear the sidestand switch has to be up (switch shorted to earth so the coil is kept on.)

If when you select a gear it stops then the side stand switch isnt giving it an earth to replace the one that gets removed when you are in neutral.

[Big red V]

thanks Crap Tartan, next silly question is where's the neutral switch to be found?

Where in Cumbria are you? Im in Carlisle.

[Crap Tartan]

Hey Red, I am in Whitehaven but Shedmonkey is in Carlisle too.

Anyway can you explain exactly what you did with you side stand switch and wiring as I reckon that may be where your problem is.

[Aussiejoe]

Have you checked the switch in the clutch lever? Sounds like that is shorting out.

[Spyke]

I've just skimmed this thread so excuse me if I've missed something, but this sounds very similar to a problem I was having, turned out my issue was because stress on the sidestand had bent it slightly, meaning that when you kicked the sidestand up the little flange that presses on the switch to tell the bike that the sidestand is up, wasn't pressing it properly. If you can get it on a paddock stand, or get someone to sit on your bike while you crawl on the ground, check the sidestand action, you should be able to tell quickly if the button is getting properly depressed. There's threads about it somewhere...a hammer persuaded my flange to operate more reliably!

[ozzraptor]

I've just skimmed this thread so excuse me if I've missed something, but this sounds very similar to a problem I was having, turned out my issue was because stress on the sidestand had bent it slightly, meaning that when you kicked the sidestand up the little flange that presses on the switch to tell the bike that the sidestand is up, wasn't pressing it properly. If you can get it on a paddock stand, or get someone to sit on your bike while you crawl on the ground, check the sidestand action, you should be able to tell quickly if the button is getting properly depressed. There's threads about it somewhere...a hammer persuaded my flange to operate more reliably!

Hail the hammer

[Spyke]

Hail the hammer

LOL, that hammer did cause a bit of a disagreement between me & my mate - we'd been at the bakery, and had no tools on the bike, my mate spotted a ute towing a glider or something, parked at the other end of the carpark, and asked the driver if we could borrow his hammer. My mate then tried to insist I push the bike the 50 yards to the hammer, rather than bringing the hammer to the bike, stupid berk, I'm a puny little thing so push nothing nowhere!

Anyway, here's some other reports of sidestand switch problems:
http://www.raptorchapter.org.uk/viewtop ... =11&t=3870
http://www.raptorchapter.org.uk/viewtop ... =16&t=3333
http://www.raptorchapter.org.uk/viewtop ... =11&t=2868
http://www.raptorchapter.org.uk/viewtop ... =14&t=2550
http://www.raptorchapter.org.uk/viewtop ... =14&t=1435

[ozzraptor]

Hail the hammer

LOL, that hammer did cause a bit of a disagreement between me & my mate - we'd been at the bakery, and had no tools on the bike, my mate spotted a ute towing a glider or something, parked at the other end of the carpark, and asked the driver if we could borrow his hammer. My mate then tried to insist I push the bike the 50 yards to the hammer, rather than bringing the hammer to the bike, stupid berk, I'm a puny little thing so push nothing nowhere!

Anyway, here's some other reports of sidestand switch problems:
http://www.raptorchapter.org.uk/viewtop ... =11&t=3870
http://www.raptorchapter.org.uk/viewtop ... =16&t=3333
http://www.raptorchapter.org.uk/viewtop ... =11&t=2868
http://www.raptorchapter.org.uk/viewtop ... =14&t=2550
http://www.raptorchapter.org.uk/viewtop ... =14&t=1435

Interesting that the rider/pillion weight was a factor of sorts ? Who would have thought
http://www.raptorchapter.org.uk/viewtop ... =16&t=3333

[Spyke]

Interesting that the rider/pillion weight was a factor of sorts ? Who would have thought
http://www.raptorchapter.org.uk/viewtop ... =16&t=3333

Yes, that was one of the weirdest examples of this issue, perhaps something else was happening - e.g. if the rider had the sidestand down, "just in case", when the pillion got on, then the sidestand retract mechanism might be under slightly different forces, or something!

[lomax]

i had the same problem too, i just disconnected the sensor switch at the lever and that worked fine for me.
Just do double tap of the stand before i head off so theres no suprises.lol