Sam's fork chart has been removed but is very helpful and is on the Tl1000 forum
Here are the best of my ability values for a 2001 650 Raptor which probably applies to a 1000cc but cannot confirm.
If it helps then great but these are my measurements, taken carefully.
650 Cagiva Raptor Notes
Triple clamp fork centres 204.(6 to 9)mm Varies every time I measure a different triple clamp 3 measurements
Triple Clamp top fork Dia 50mm
Triple Clamp Bottom Fork Dia 54mm closer to 53.8
Triple clamp offset 28mm measures under 28
Fork spacing at Wheel spindle clamps 140.3mm
Outside to outside of wheel bearings 121mm
Spindle centre to caliper Mounting Face only applicable to radially mounted brakes
Caliper Mounting face to Edge of Disc 30mm average as each varried 0.33mm
Caliper Bolt length M10 x 26
Caliper bolt centres 65mm
Brake disc Diameter 298mm
Brake disc offset 10.5 Brembo measures outside of disc face to mounting face
Rotor thickness 4mm
Rotor centres on stock wheel 126.6mm Caliper centres measure 127.5mm
Bolt PCD 80mm Mounting hub diameter is 61mm
Wheel hub disc Mounting faces Apart 109mm
Fork Length from CL of spindle to top of fork clamp 725mm
Spring rate(kg/mm)/Length ??/280 1000cc
Spring Diameter ??
Slider Diameter 43mm
Oil weight 7.5W
Oil Height 160mm
Cartridge Size ???mm
Manufacturer Marzocchi
Stock rate and trail 25.2/110 Press release motocycle.com 19/03/2001
Frame steering head angle 24.6 degrees 1000cc raptor manual
Head tube 25 degrees cannot confirm
Brake caliper mount inside faces 191mm Relates to Caliper Mounting face to Edge of Disc
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Cool, good to have all these tech notes in the one place, thanks for sharing. The only thing I can add is the the front discs seem to be pinched from the Aprilia RS250...the rear 220mm seems to be absolutely unique to the Raps, please someone correct me if I'm wrong?
Road racing's where it's at - going round in circles all day is for hamsters.
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I knew i had it somewhere,i have dealt with Sam many times, unfortunately he had a very serious motorcycle accident but happy to say is making a recovery although very slowly.
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Additional information for forks
Raptor 650 spring and preloading tube kit p/n 800099944 is the same for the raptor 1000; but 1000 V and X-tra raptor are different.
The spring measures 285mm long.
OD 38.75mm
ID 29.75mm
wire diameter 5mm
The spring stiffness measures K = 0.81 kg/mm.
Comparing racetech's spring search against a 750 monster 01 and a 696 Monster 08 would suggest it might suit a 60 to 65kg rider. But this is a guess as the bike's weights differ, as do C of G and steering tube angle, but it's an idea.
The spring sleeve measures 116 mm long with an OD of 38 and an ID of 30mm it is black plastic.
The fork caps threads are interesting as they measure 45.5mm OD with a M1.5 pitch much courser than most fork caps.
Those looking for linear rate springs may find this helpful. Maybe Racetech's FRSP S3827, OD 38.2mm x 36 x 273mm long may fit as these are often supplied slightly longer than 273mm but it will still need a longer spacer. At this moment it is only a guess and the top spring locator may also need changing.
Lastly, the forks feature a motorcross style x cross section inner spring guide which measures around 27.75mm across it's highest points but it is not shown on the parts list or workshop manual.
Thanks
Al
Raptor 650 spring and preloading tube kit p/n 800099944 is the same for the raptor 1000; but 1000 V and X-tra raptor are different.
The spring measures 285mm long.
OD 38.75mm
ID 29.75mm
wire diameter 5mm
The spring stiffness measures K = 0.81 kg/mm.
Comparing racetech's spring search against a 750 monster 01 and a 696 Monster 08 would suggest it might suit a 60 to 65kg rider. But this is a guess as the bike's weights differ, as do C of G and steering tube angle, but it's an idea.
The spring sleeve measures 116 mm long with an OD of 38 and an ID of 30mm it is black plastic.
The fork caps threads are interesting as they measure 45.5mm OD with a M1.5 pitch much courser than most fork caps.
Those looking for linear rate springs may find this helpful. Maybe Racetech's FRSP S3827, OD 38.2mm x 36 x 273mm long may fit as these are often supplied slightly longer than 273mm but it will still need a longer spacer. At this moment it is only a guess and the top spring locator may also need changing.
Lastly, the forks feature a motorcross style x cross section inner spring guide which measures around 27.75mm across it's highest points but it is not shown on the parts list or workshop manual.
Thanks
Al
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Just noticed that pic has gone astray, so here's the chart as it stands today.
The wonderful thread over at http://www.tlzone.net/forums/suzuki-tl1 ... chart.html gets updated regularly and the latest chart is in the first post. Thanks, Sam!
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Road racing's where it's at - going round in circles all day is for hamsters.
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From http://www.raptorchapter.org.uk/viewtop ... 489#p34486
V4mp wrote:55 years agoOlder RSV forks are straight fit, 43mm. Works with original calipers, no triples needed.
Newer RSV forks can be mounted to stock triples if you drill them but you will need new brakes.
Road racing's where it's at - going round in circles all day is for hamsters.